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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2011 22:52:21 GMT -5
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Post by NyxAvatar on Apr 8, 2011 0:05:11 GMT -5
I don't know who any of the people or what any of the cards mentioned in this post are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2011 8:41:10 GMT -5
I don't know who any of the people or what any of the cards mentioned in this post are. Sorry about that, put in deck names and links to gatherer. |
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Post by vultanphase on Apr 8, 2011 13:56:32 GMT -5
I don't think Yet Another AEther Vortex triggers ETB effects.
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Post by tehwerr on Apr 8, 2011 15:14:21 GMT -5
I didn't think so either I thought it was just in play and when you drew it it was just not in play any more
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2011 15:54:34 GMT -5
According to M10 rules, "in play" -> "on the battlefield."
When the card is revealed, it enters on the battlefield, as it becomes in that zone.
I'll ask about it, though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2011 16:11:36 GMT -5
Correction:
Apparently the rules team says (stupidly) that it triggers LTB but not ETB. Which is stupid, since the argument for it is that that's what phasing does. But that isn't what phasing does, as
"Zone-change triggers don’t trigger when a permanent phases in or out." - Comp. Rules
Thus, I argue that Maro or someone else was confused and there is no reason why this doesn't trigger ETB or LTB effects, as it IS entering the battlefield.
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Post by Eff on Apr 8, 2011 16:41:03 GMT -5
That's what you get for trying. Un-cards fail at sense-make.
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Post by zrealm on Apr 8, 2011 17:33:13 GMT -5
Keep in mind the rules team's statements about unhinged came before they completely changed what phasing does. It used to *always* trigger LTB effects but not ETB effects.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 10:31:36 GMT -5
Keep in mind the rules team's statements about unhinged came before they completely changed what phasing does. It used to *always* trigger LTB effects but not ETB effects. Ah. I see. That makes a lot more sense. I was wondering why it looked like even the rules team didn't understand something as simple and straight-forward as phasing. |
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Post by tehwerr on Apr 9, 2011 11:23:02 GMT -5
... something as simple and straight-forward as phasing. LOLOLOLOLOLOL (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL) |
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Post by vultanphase on Apr 9, 2011 12:36:38 GMT -5
Phasing used to have some rhyme and reason to it. Because it was its own zone with special rules. Now it works inconsistently because phased out is literally "on the battlefield, except no it isn't". Which makes NO sense because tokens still cease to exist (Which sort of made sense when they ended up in a zone other than in-play, because that's how the rules of tokes works, but they're on the battlefield at all times now so that's dumb.
Also counters stay on things. Tokens go away, but counters stay on things. Thanks for... 'fixing' the phasing rules guys.
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