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Post by zrealm on Jun 19, 2011 23:11:59 GMT -5
This is a repost from the DCI Judge List, but its a fairly important one:
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I wanted to bring to your attention the banning in standard made today and most especially Aaron Forsythe's explanation.
<http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/148>
<http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/148a>
Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge Mystic will both be banned in Standard effective July 1, 2011. Exception: The deck list for the "War of Attrition" Event Deck will be legal in Standard if kept completely intact. That deck, which went on sale on June 10, contains two copies of Stoneforge Mystic.
Here's the deck list: WAR OF ATTRITION New Phyrexia Event Deck
2 Dread Statuary
21 Plains
23 lands
4 Elite Vanguard
1 Kemba, Kha Regent
2 Kor Duelist
4 Leonin Relic-Warder
4 Leonin Skyhunter
1 Mirran Crusader
4 Porcelain Legionnaire
1 Puresteel Paladin
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Apostle's Blessing
1 Bonehoard
1 Darksteel Axe
4 Flayer Husk
4 Journey to Nowhere
1 Sickleslicer
1 Skinwing
1 Sword of Vengeance
Sideboard
1 Apostle's Blessing
2 Arrest
3 Celestial Purge
1 Kor Duelist
4 Kor Firewalker
4 Revoke Existence
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Post by Roger on Jun 20, 2011 0:03:50 GMT -5
So I take it Jace the Mindsculptor isn't in M12 then...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 1:47:18 GMT -5
Yay! This means that decks in Standard should become more interesting.
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Post by DazBoot on Jun 20, 2011 2:09:19 GMT -5
That exception makes me so happy and disgusted all at the same time...
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Post by Jeff S on Jun 20, 2011 4:06:20 GMT -5
You can still use this awesome card, but only in the context we want you to.
That just makes me laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 5:25:44 GMT -5
The Aaron Forsythe article is actually pretty interesting.
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Post by tehwerr on Jun 20, 2011 6:16:00 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting stoneforge mystic to be banned as well...
well I'm willing to trade for stoneforge mystics now.
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Post by Tortuga on Jun 20, 2011 10:00:50 GMT -5
Oh god, maybe a can put together my old blue black control deck now that I don't need Jaces!
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Post by Kiki on Jun 20, 2011 15:21:14 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting stoneforge mystic to be banned as well... well I'm willing to trade for stoneforge mystics now. They still cost 15 dollars right now. And stoneforge + batterskull/jitte + sword is definitely legacy viable. |
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Post by tehwerr on Jun 20, 2011 17:56:51 GMT -5
damn, and I remember getting my first two for 7. well what ever 15 is still an improvement over 20 and up.
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Post by Kino on Jun 20, 2011 18:41:28 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting stoneforge mystic to be banned as well... well I'm willing to trade for stoneforge mystics now. If I had to bet on one of the two, I would have bet on stoneforge. Jace is great, but ban him and caw-blade still exists. It would barely miss a step. Stoneforge is the card that caused all the degeneracy in the format. It was in the best deck, every variant on the best deck, and several of the decks that tried to compete with the best deck. |
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Post by Mike on Jun 20, 2011 19:21:38 GMT -5
From a gameplay perspective I'm excited to start brewing again (though I did genuinely enjoy playing CawBlade), but from a financial perspective I'm pretty disappointed since all I have with me are UW cards.
I'm interested to see what happens to Jace's value. It is now being played quite a bit as a 4-of in Legacy, so long term I expect it to hold $40-50 or similar to Tarmogoyf. I expect Stoneforge to hold a solid 10 after the dust settles, but I could see it being about 8, since it's only played in one deck in Legacy.
If people play Extended/Modern/whatever middle format heavily then prices could go back up. Stoneblade was still the best deck in new extended.
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Post by Kiki on Jun 20, 2011 21:00:36 GMT -5
From a gameplay perspective I'm excited to start brewing again (though I did genuinely enjoy playing CawBlade), but from a financial perspective I'm pretty disappointed since all I have with me are UW cards. I'm interested to see what happens to Jace's value. It is now being played quite a bit as a 4-of in Legacy, so long term I expect it to hold $40-50 or similar to Tarmogoyf. I expect Stoneforge to hold a solid 10 after the dust settles, but I could see it being about 8, since it's only played in one deck in Legacy. If people play Extended/Modern/whatever middle format heavily then prices could go back up. Stoneblade was still the best deck in new extended. has it listed under BW stoneblade (3.47% of the field), UWR stoneblade (1.69% of the field), and UW stoneblade (1.35 % of the field). Together thats 6.5 % of the field being specifically stoneforge decks, not counting its occasional inclusion in certain forms of zoo, junk and bant (like the bant deck that won the gp). Maverick (GW w/ green sun'z) often runs it as a 3 of. I havent really seen maverick do much, but its listed as proven in mtgs. |
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Post by DazBoot on Jun 20, 2011 21:16:15 GMT -5
I don't quite understand how that conflicts with Mike's statement. There is StoneBlade (and some of the variations). Aside from that, it seems like it's a played card in a few other decks, but not a general staple in many other decks.
As for the prevalence, 6.5% is nothing when compared to some other cards that have such a choke hold on Legacy deckbuilding...
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Post by Jaksiel on Jun 20, 2011 21:45:28 GMT -5
I am going to need to buy Jace and Mystic on MODO to prepare for Extended for PT Philadelphia. Anything that drops their value makes me happy!
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Post by Mike on Jun 20, 2011 22:12:41 GMT -5
^Sick brag
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Post by kosine on Jun 21, 2011 4:14:04 GMT -5
This is first and the best news I've heard in China.
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Post by Roger on Jun 21, 2011 6:08:26 GMT -5
They let you hear news in China now???
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